In this episode Eric interviews Leslie Cramblet Alvarez for a Part 2 interview from the University of Denver (DU) in Denver, CO. Leslie chats about the before-times, and her job transition from Adams State University in relatively small Alamosa, CO, to the Director of the Office of Teaching and Learning at the University of Denver, in Denver, CO. The smaller-town college life comes with strengths and with substantial limitations. Leslie shares her story of being on the job market, giving up tenure, and landing her OTL staff position at DU. Then there is the story of the sabbatical and the “time to be served” after the sabbatical. Leslie generously shares her story throughout this interview, just as she does every day.