In this episode Garth interviews Arthur Evans Jr., the CEO of the American Psychological Association in Washington, DC. Arthur describes his acronymic onboarding to APA and the learning curve. They discuss social justice missions, current political outcomes, and how psychological science when framed properly, can provide valuable data and insights that are non-partisan. Arthur shares his Philadephia mental health system reform successes and his origin story. There is a chat about skills and so much more.