In this episode Garth interviews LaDonna Lewis from Glendale Community College in Glendale, AZ. Part of LaDonna’s success comes from the determination of her parents for LaDonna to have a better life; the “ticket” out of a poor neighborhood was education for LaDonna. LaDonna’s love of learning matched well with parental goals, as she loved to read as a child, including reading encyclopedias. Her interests are varied, including sociology, psychology (earning a PhD at the University of Oklahoma), and an undergraduate minor in history. Working with her wife, she does fascinating research and consulting with probation officers regarding compassion fatigue and burnout.