In this episode Eric interviews Noland White (for the second time) from Georgia College and State University in Milledgeville, GA. Noland is a true Southern gentleman in the best sense of the phrase; we chat about his long-term colleague Lee Gillis, a silly conversation about failing to reject peach cobbler, and the pronunciation of PEcan vs. peCAN. Eric asks a lot of questions about Noland’s textbook expertise, from a vacation visit with Saundra Ciccarelli in 2022 to the role of textbook reviewers to his first splurge from a royalty check. Noland was kind enough to mention a book that Eric had recently co-authored, and we both acknowledge our friendship, our privilege, and we look forward to seeing our national colleagues in person “post”-COVID.