In this episode Eric interviews Jane Halonen from the University of West Florida in Pensacola, FL (Jane was also featured on Episode #006). These two have a friendship that spans 32 years. Just some of the highlights to listen for are our discussions about Bill McKeachie, assessment, career transitions, involvement in APA & STP, and program reviews. Other topics mentioned include Janeland, being an Alvernoid, being pluckable, Midwestern machoism, and so much more. Thank you Jane, for everything!