In this episode Garth interviews Lindsay Masland from Appalachian State University in Boone, NC. This conversation is a tour de force about the philosophy of teaching. Lindsay describes how a listserv post sparked a research project, why low teaching evaluation scores can be valuable data, and why she describes herself as learning-centered. As an educational psychologist, Lindsay has thought deeply about her teaching practices, and it shows; she is an innovative SoTL researcher, without even knowing it.